Snake Eyes, Transformers: The Rise of Beast Producers on Cracking the New Sequel

Lorenzo di Bonaventura is around the block (buster). In the 1990s, the producer was a Warner Bros. Pictures executive who defended the film at all budget levels and ultimately brought the Harry Potter series. As an independent producer in the 2000s, he produced everything from Stephen King’s adaptations. 1408 Angelina Jolie’s salt For micro budget Internal devil Mark Wahlberg’s Prestige Action Drama Deepwater Horizon.. But his greatest and most terrifying feat could be as a director of two mega franchises, Transformers and GI Joe.

In front of Michael Bay, Transformers films have become a valuable property of Paramount Pictures. This is a $ 1 billion franchise that has been around for over a decade and a half.Joe turns out to be more complicated: 2009 GI Joe: The rise of Cobra 2013 was a popcorn rampage that wasn’t clicked by a large audience GI Joe: Retaliation It was a little snappy at The Rock, but it just broke.Now Divona Ventura is back with another take of GI Joe, who has a heavy martial arts Snake-eyes, Director Robert Schwentke (Rebel army). Snake-eyes It’s a late start, but it’s unclear how it will evolve in the long run, as the theater model is just back and the release windows that have been hampered by streaming deals are condensed. Is it still the beginning of something fresh for the franchise? As di Bonaventura says, there’s a reason to think so.

When Snake-eyes The newly released Transformers movie, which is currently being released in theaters, Rise of the beast, Currently directed by Stephen Caple Jr. (Creed II) When In heights Star Anthony Ramos, Polygon, sat down with the producer and talked about the balanced act of making a huge movie that brings personality to each piece.

How long have you been talking about doing a Snake Eyes movie? I think the idea has changed in the last few years.

Every time we brought it out, it was so funny and emotional that it was the story of the origins of Snake and Storm that emerged. Brotherhood, betrayal, everything that makes a really great drama-it has it in its story. It’s very Cain and Abel. We talked a lot, but it was so rich and so naive that we always returned to it immediately.

What does a GI Joe movie need to be a GI Joe movie? The original Joe movie was very soldier-centric, but here we escape from it.

I don’t think of this as a Joe movie. I really think it’s a snake movie. We chose Snake Eyes because we were able to make such specific tonal references, whether in Samurai or Kung Fu films. It’s about a journey to a truly mysterious land. It really appealed to me.Many years ago I did a movie The Last Samurai When I was at Warner Bros. I think the quest for Japanese culture is fascinating in the first place. To be clear, it’s such a different culture. However, there are many things that look back on your culture. So I think it’s an advantage that it was driven there by the story of Cain and Abel.

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When you start developing a new movie, do you go back to the old movie?

Every time I make an action movie that really hits me, I watch a particular movie. Because those tones are what we are trying to convey.So when we made the movie shooter, We all saw Deer hunter And this is interesting. Because not many people know or like this movie, That wrap, This is a Gene Hackman movie, Tommy Lee Jones that makes the delusional thriller feel incredibly good. Therefore, there is a specific movie that serves as a reference point. At least a good movie, or a great movie, but we’re especially trying to remember what’s possible.

What did you see Snake-eyes??

Interesting thing Snake-eyes Both Robert and I watched a lot of Kung Fu and Samurai movies, so it was like a collection of what drove us. No, it’s not, I don’t know about Robert. For me, it was really a genre.

With Joe, he has directed Transformers films since the 2007 film.The franchise really takes root, grows huge, and ultimately makes sense to shrink the premise. Bumblebee..Did you learn anything from the franchise you brought to rethink Joe? Snake-eyes??

If you run some big versions of something, you’ll be a little trapped in the corner. Continued or ran 5 as in Transformers [movies].. And in a way that breaks that cycle, Bumblebee isn’t a small movie, so we went concrete rather than small, but it’s more emotional and a very different tact from a storytelling perspective. I took. So it’s probably the case here as well. Snake-eyes. We said, “OK, let’s stay away from what we’ve been doing.” There is freedom in it, and there is a kind of rejuvenation of joy about what it is.

was Bumblebee A little gambling? Was it rewarded? It seemed to be successful, but probably moderately.

I rarely criticize marketing campaigns, but it was a really terrible marketing campaign. I was trying to sell it because it was too soft, so I started selling anime movies or something. But as a result, the movie is really loved. It again captivated the audience in a very different way and was very successful in it. From an economic point of view, you’re right, it was a modest success. But for the franchise, it was a huge success. It reminded the audience of some elemental connection to the existence of these metals, why we love them, and why we care about their personality. So at that level, I think it was a huge success. The best way is to go ahead and make another Transformers movie.

Bumblebee Travis Knight, Hailee Steinfeld, John Cena, Lorenzo di Bonaventura at Bumblebee’s Beijing Press Conference
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Recently announced Transformers: The rise of the beast — How do you keep thinking about it? Bumblebee Or maybe rethink the franchise?

I say this: with the first Transformers movie Bumblebee The film touched on both that mysterious sensation and the first connection between humans and machines. So we want to reproduce what we did in Transformers 1 in different ways. This is a very emotional story and has a big and wild experience. Bumblebee In a way, it reminded us of our roots.

Snake-eyes When Rise of the beast Both have restructured these large franchises, known primarily for white characters, and are leading the people of color. Does the series gain a new perspective by telling stories with characters other than white?

Diversity is a minefield of recent debate, but I fully understand what you are saying. I think there was a very different reason behind what happened. Rise of the beast It’s a story of identity.Well, both are stories of identity, and interestingly, I explored with white characters with Shiites, so I think it’s interesting to explore with a variety of characters. [LaBeouf, star of Transformers], In a sense.

What appealed to us at Snake Eyes was, frankly, a culture like a samurai movie. It felt like such a fresh departure from where we were ,. Part of our job is to continue to captivate the audience by astonishing them. So it was a very conscious discussion of identity. I didn’t write the characters as Asian or Caucasian. We went to the cast after calling him “Snake Eyes”.

I don’t think many people have the view of having a movie. Henry was an unlikely choice, and it was actually the studio that suggested him. Robert and I said, “I’m not sure because we know him as.” We know him as a kind of dashing person. In a sense, more Cary Grant. So when we first sat down with him, it was his enthusiasm and his willingness to learn that fascinated us. He really wanted to learn to fight. And in my experience, having an actor doing that makes it very attractive to the audience. Henry is so, so you really feel like Henry’s fight. He trained like crazy. He did some of his own stunts.

What I had never really considered in Henry’s choice was the fact that he was big. He’s a big guy, so he has a presence. I know it’s not fashionable anymore, but when I grew up, John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, they were big names. Steven Seagal, Arnold. Action heroes had scale. Henry is big. I was really surprised. I don’t know why, but I didn’t think he was that tall. His size brings reliability.

Henry Golding in the fighting stance of Snake Eyes

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How did you decide to hire Robert to direct a martial arts film?

Well, two things: one is what I really love Red.. It’s one of the movies I’m most proud of as a producer. It was so crazy and wacky that somehow we got off the tone.

Helen Mirren did it at Fast & Furious before Helen Mirren did it at Fast & Furious.

I know, I know, they are stripping us! By the way, this is an almost accurate shot. Red, that too. But that’s another conversation. By the way, God blesses her. She is wonderful

Anyway, I think we put Robert on the list, and I called Robert and said, “Are you interested?” And he said, “You don’t know I’m a very big samurai fan.” And he immediately started rattling all these movies I had never heard of. He is a hardcore samurai kung fu fan, but specifically a samurai. He intends to do it right. “

You ended up working with many eastern crew members, Including action director Kenji Tanigaki, The person who choreographed the battle.

Robert and I talked about the possibility of a fusion of Eastern and Western behavior. Kenji worked on a Hong Kong movie that we all know and love if you like such a movie. It was this idea to create this fusion, as the second unit director, Jim Madigan, was making a lot of movies together. The unexpected thing happened was probably 20-25% Japanese and 75% others between the cast and the crew during the filming in Vancouver. When we went to Japan, the ratio changed, 75% from Japanese to 25% like others. I felt that it influenced the way the movie felt. And since they didn’t consider us the arrival of Americans, it certainly made our shooting in Japan much easier. The shooting experience there was really great as we were accepted.

Where do you want Joe’s franchise to go from here? Want to follow Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow? Can you watch Joe movies in other flavors?

It is not a predetermined one. I think there are different ways we can go. Indeed, one way we are discussing it is how to maintain the backbone of this relationship we have developed. This hostile relationship? Is there a way to merge it into a larger Joe movie and perhaps make it a storyline? Maybe it’s the main story. So it’s not yet clear what we decide to do. To be honest, the difficulty at this point is that given the issues of delta variants and theaters, we don’t know what success means right now.

Have you ever discussed introducing live-action Joe or Transformers to Paramount Plus in the future?

I haven’t discussed that. I don’t know exactly what their plans are. I say this: I generally have nothing against streaming, but I feel these big movies should be on the big screen. But no one says, “Hey, let’s put this in Paramount Plus.”

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